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 Gemmy (original poster member #86765) posted at 1:30 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

@unhinged recommended trying to take on just a piece of the pie at a time rather than plunging my face into the plate so I started with Rage.

The rage that comes after betrayal like this is not ordinary anger. It is not the clean, temporary anger of an argument, a disappointment, or a bad day. It is older than the moment of discovery and newer than every lie that followed it. It feels like your whole body finally understanding something your mind is still trying to survive. It is not just anger that she cheated. It is anger that she cheated for years, came home, smiled, lived, parented, accepted your loyalty, accepted your protection, accepted your work, accepted your love, and let you keep building a life on a foundation she knew had already been hollowed out.

The rage is not only about the sex, though the sex is brutal enough. It is about the theft of reality, it is about being faithful inside a marriage that was not faithful to you. It is about realizing that while you were choosing restraint, duty, fatherhood, loyalty, and family, she was choosing secrecy. It is about looking back at the wedding, the anniversaries, the pregnancies, the family pictures, the ordinary dinners, the inside jokes, the hard seasons, the hospital scares, the bills, the children, the sacrifices, and realizing there were hidden rooms inside your own life that you were never allowed to enter. That kind of anger does not feel like a flame, it feels like lava under the floorboards about to erupt and destroy everything.

What makes the rage so hard to explain is that it does not stay attached to one event, it spreads backward. A normal memory becomes contaminated. A photograph becomes evidence. A loving moment becomes suspicious. A phrase she once used, a place she once went, a delay in a text, a stupid small lie about something meaningless, all of it can suddenly become connected to the same enormous wound. People may see the reaction and think, "Why is he so angry about that?" But it is never just that. It is like an echo. It is the body remembering that disaster once arrived dressed as nothing. After my betrayal, a small lie is not small anymore. It is a hand reaching toward the same trap door, or a nuke about to explode.

There is also rage in the humiliation. Not insecurity, not ego, not some fragile male pride, but the humiliation of being made into an unwilling participant in your own deception. You were not given the dignity of informed choice. You were not allowed to decide whether you wanted to stay in that marriage with the truth in front of you. You were managed. You were handled. You were given enough normalcy to keep functioning and enough affection to keep investing. That is a special kind of violation. It is one thing to be hurt, it is another thing to realize someone let you continue pouring your life into a version of reality they knew was false.

Then there is the rage that comes from having to keep functioning. The children still need breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Work still needs doing, albeit far less productive (writing posts for hours). The house still needs fixing. Life does not stop just because something inside you has been blown apart. You are expected to answer emails, make decisions, regulate your tone, be careful with the kids, consider everyone else’s feelings, and somehow not become consumed by the fact that your own history has just been rewritten without your consent. That creates a trapped kind of anger. You are screaming internally while externally trying to be a father, an employee, a human being. You are expected to carry the body of the marriage and still behave politely at the funeral no one else can see. And it is the loneliest funeral ever.

The rage also comes from the imbalance. You had wounds too. You had loneliness too. You had unmet needs too. You had childhood damage, rejection, stress, exhaustion, temptation, and every human reason to justify selfishness if you wanted to. But you did not. You stayed faithful. You kept your values when they cost you something. So when people start explaining her choices with soft words like brokenness, avoidance, validation, coping, or compartmentalization, something inside you wants to revolt. Not because those things are impossible, but because they do not erase the moral difference. Pain may explain a weakness. It does not transform betrayal into something less destructive. You were hurt too, and you still did not outsource your integrity to another person’s body.

A huge part of the anger is that discovery did not end the betrayal. The trickle truth, the minimization, the "I don’t remember," the details dragged out only under pressure, the small lies after the massive ones, all of it becomes fresh damage. It teaches you that even your devastation was not enough to make the truth sacred. That is a terrifying thing to learn. It makes safety feel almost impossible, because you are not only angry about what happened. You are angry that after the bomb went off, you still had to search the rubble yourself, and in my case she decided to humiliate me publicly repeatedly.

And beneath all of that rage is grief. That may be the cruelest part. The anger is loud because the grief is bottomless. You are angry because the marriage you thought you had died. You are angry because the version of her you loved may never have fully existed. You are angry because the old version of you, the man who trusted, believed, defended, sacrificed, and built, is gone now too. You are angry because your children were pulled into a reality they did not create. You are angry because you cannot simply go back to being the man who did not know. Knowledge has no reverse gear.

So no, this rage is not bitterness. It is not immaturity. It is not punishment for punishment’s sake. It is the nervous system’s alarm after years of sleeping in a burning house. It is the soul saying, "This mattered. I mattered. The vows mattered. The years mattered. The truth mattered, but only too you." It is the part of you that refuses to let soft language bury the brutality of what was done. It is ugly, exhausting, and sometimes frightening, but it is also honest. It is the part of you standing guard over the ruins, not because you want to live there forever, but because someone has to tell the truth about how the house came down.

I have been angry in the past, I have had what I thought was rage in the past. But not this type of RAGE. I now understand what the meaning of rage truly is and it is palpable.

Betrayed but trying to stand for the family. ME: 45 M DDay Oct.18 2025- April 2026 Two LTA EA/PA first 2 years second 1 year - 14 years apart.

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InkHulk ( member #80400) posted at 2:42 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

Primal.

The word primal is what enabled me to understand my rage. To give myself permission to rage, permission I had needed after a life of emotional containment.

Betrayal of everything sacred. Everything life giving. Everything good.

There is no containing that eruption. It explodes from the core of our humanity.

It does eventually exhaust itself, but the landscape is forever altered, scarred. But life finds a way.

People are more important than the relationships they are in.

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Letmebefrank ( member #86994) posted at 2:42 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

but the humiliation of being made into an unwilling participant in your own deception

Bull’s-eye.

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Pogre ( member #86173) posted at 4:22 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

but the humiliation of being made into an unwilling participant in your own deception

Bull’s-eye.


You're goddamned right.

My wife hasn't been driving for about a year and a half because of her epilepsy. In fact, her independence being stripped away from her, through no fault of her own, was one of the catalysts that led to her making some very horrible decisions.

I've been her chauffeur for all this time. Shopping, hair and nail appointments, visits with girlfriends, her mom, lunches with the girls, etc. I'd drop her off and pick her back up when she texted me. I did it without complaint. Without so much as an eye roll or a sigh. I did it because I knew how badly it hurt her to be stripped of such a basic privilege most of us take for granted. I didn't want her to feel trapped or unable to do the things she wanted to do. I wanted to show her that I was here for her, and that I'm willing to be her chauffeur tomtry and take the sting out of not being able to just pick up and do things on her own.

Her last tryst, the one I dumped a bucket of cold water on, was conducted just a couple of blocks from her bff's house. Guess who dropped her off there so she could (unbeknownst to me) spend the night with her AP? She was supposed to be spending the night with her BFF to "help her out" because she'd just gotten out of the hospital. She left there about a half hour after I dropped her off and walked to her AP's place.

Talk about being made an unwilling participant in my own deception.

Where am I going... and why am I in this handbasket?

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ButterflyInProgress ( member #87238) posted at 5:12 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

Gemmy

the humiliation of being made into an unwilling participant in your own deception

Yes exactly this it is not ordinary anger it is rage at realising you were living honestly inside a version of life that was not honest with you.

I found myself raging in a way I have never experienced before like proper full body rage and part of it was realising that memories I thought were safe had been defaced. Even our Cyprus holiday album became contaminated because his affair partner had inserted herself into that part of our life without me knowing what she represented.

That is the part people do not always understand as it is not just what they did - it is what they did to your reality your memories and your right to know the truth about your own life.

ButterflyInProgress

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 Gemmy (original poster member #86765) posted at 5:16 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

Exactly. Wedding photos, rings, dress......poof.

Betrayed but trying to stand for the family. ME: 45 M DDay Oct.18 2025- April 2026 Two LTA EA/PA first 2 years second 1 year - 14 years apart.

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 Gemmy (original poster member #86765) posted at 5:52 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

Pogre, I am so sorry. That is exactly the kind of thing I was trying to describe, and honestly your example makes my stomach turn.

You were not just giving her rides. You were trying to preserve her dignity, her independence, and her sense of freedom after epilepsy had already taken so much of that from her. You were showing up in one of the most practical, loving ways a spouse can show up. No complaint, no resentment, no keeping score. Just, "I know this hurts you, so I will help carry it."

And then to find out that your care, your reliability, and your willingness to protect her were used as part of the cover story? That is a special kind of violation. It turns kindness into evidence, it makes you look back and wonder how many times your love was being used as transportation for her deception.

That is the humiliation I mean. Not embarrassment. Not insecurity. Not ego. The humiliation of realizing you were participating in a lie because you were operating from love while they were operating from secrecy.

I am sorry, brother. That one is brutal.

Betrayed but trying to stand for the family. ME: 45 M DDay Oct.18 2025- April 2026 Two LTA EA/PA first 2 years second 1 year - 14 years apart.

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Theevent ( member #85259) posted at 6:44 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

Gemmy
All of your posts are really good. This one in particular really touched me.

You give words to the thoughts and feelings that many of us feel but have a hard time conveying. You convey accurately the scope and magnitude of the painful reality most of us live in every day to one degree or another.

In addition to helping you process through this pain, which I think is probably very healthy, you are helping me and countless others give word to the feelings inside.

Thank you, and keep it up!

Me - BH, age 42
Her - WW, age 40
EA 1/2023, PA 7/2023 - 6/2024
D-day 4/2024 (Married 18 years at that time)

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Pogre ( member #86173) posted at 7:21 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

Gemmy (original poster member #86765) posted at 10:52 AM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

Pogre, I am so sorry. That is exactly the kind of thing I was trying to describe, and honestly your example makes my stomach turn.

You were not just giving her rides. You were trying to preserve her dignity, her independence, and her sense of freedom after epilepsy had already taken so much of that from her. You were showing up in one of the most practical, loving ways a spouse can show up. No complaint, no resentment, no keeping score. Just, "I know this hurts you, so I will help carry it."

And then to find out that your care, your reliability, and your willingness to protect her were used as part of the cover story? That is a special kind of violation. It turns kindness into evidence, it makes you look back and wonder how many times your love was being used as transportation for her deception.

That is the humiliation I mean. Not embarrassment. Not insecurity. Not ego. The humiliation of realizing you were participating in a lie because you were operating from love while they were operating from secrecy.

I am sorry, brother. That one is brutal.


That particular night only got more brutal. I'll spare you all of the details, but she stopped replying to my texts, I was lied to by her friend ("um... she... walked to the store...") and drove around that neighborhood looking for my wife while worried sick before I came to my senses and realized I'd been lied to. I went back and confronted her friend, finally got the truth, then went to confront my wife.

It only got worse from there. My d day isn't the worst I've read about, but it's up there. Needless to say, I found her, confronted her, and ended up going home alone that night.

I know the humiliation. I know the rage. It's amazing we're still together just based on her words and actions that night alone. I was completely blindsided. I had ignored every red flag. She had mentioned AP's name before, but he was just another faceless person to me out of about a dozen faceless people she worked with and talked about. All I knew was that he had epilepsy, too.

I had no fucking clue that infidelity was even on her or my radar. At all. I found out everything, all at once, that night. My world went from completely normal to completely destroyed in an instant. I was beyond shocked.

It took her about a month or so, and the real possibility of divorce, but she's been moving mountains to demonstrate why I should even stay with her for the entirety of the last year now. I can't believe she's the same person now that she was that night. So much has changed, and much of it for the better. Much better, but holy shit, that night was the worst night of my 56 years of life.

Where am I going... and why am I in this handbasket?

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FaithFool ( member #20150) posted at 8:03 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

That kind of anger does not feel like a flame, it feels like lava under the floorboards about to erupt and destroy everything.

Bingo.

It fully arrived for me the day I handed over the keys to what was to be our forever home.

The house we'd just bought and had renovated after selling the one we'd shared with my mum for a decade before she went into care.

The house where he brought sidepiece #whatever to smudge it while I was out of town. (She was part Mohawk and that was her Thing).

The previous owner was an old geezer getting a nasty divorce, so we had discussed maybe getting a Buddhist priest to come and do a purification.

So he brought her there with her sweetgrass and tobacco and they went through every inch of the property smudging. Then he fucked her out behind the greenhouse. (I know this because she made sure to send me a message with the deets.)

She left her earrings in the basement where I found them and he made something up about that - when you do a smudge you're not supposed to wear jewellery apparently. That's when my radar started pinging pretty hard. So many lies...

The day I handed over the keys a year and half later, I went through every room and every closet screaming I CURSE YOU over and over until I was exhausted. I screamed in the car all the way back to my rental apartment.

It was awful but necessary to purge that anger, and after that I got a scrip for some Ativan to take the edge off just so I could function. It took another five years before I came back to the woman I used to be before he arrived.

Onward.
FF

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1994 ( member #82615) posted at 9:31 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

The way you're dealing with this is so healthy. This description is evocative of what so many of us feel. My WF had already cheated on me (I thought we were reconciling) and waited until I was locked away in Army boot camp before she cheated again. It was an exit affair, I now know, because she told me very bluntly and cruelly, going so far as to describe what they did and where they did it. I was stunned.

As luck would have it, days later my sister died. A sister who had met and loved her and told us what a great couple we were. Still stuck in the "pick me" dance, or at least needing to speak with someone, I eventually told her and she just casually said "sorry" and hung up. Literally. I found out later she began trying to sleep with friends of mine, two of whom took her up on it, even after knowing about my sister. Dealing with that kind of betrayal on top of a personal tragedy nearly destroyed me emotionally.

There's no better description than rage--just impotent, unfocused, helpless rage. I still feel a touch of, not rage exactly, but sad resentment decades later. That I had to endure this level of disrespect and abject cruelty is something I continue to wrestle with.

Thank you, as always, for finding the right words to really put this into perspective.

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Theevent ( member #85259) posted at 9:32 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

Go to YouTube and look this song up:

"How Numb I Feel - Sad song"

Me - BH, age 42
Her - WW, age 40
EA 1/2023, PA 7/2023 - 6/2024
D-day 4/2024 (Married 18 years at that time)

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 11:10 PM on Friday, June 19th, 2026

I think 'primal' (as in The Primal Scream) is the most accurate term.

IMO, grief isn't underneath rage. I think grief - and fear and shame and desire and ? - live alongside rage.

When rage comes, the quickest and IMO the most effective way to process it is to feel it course through one's body. It's real. Don't fight it. It's just your system telling the world you deserve better treatment from your WS than you have gotten.

A good IC would say it's a problem if you don't also feel grief, fear, and shame cyclically. If all you feel is rage, you're almost definitely turning other feelings into rage. If you don't feel grief, fear, or shame, you're probably turning one of those feelings into anger.

A corollary is that one has to process the grief, fear, and shame (and ?) as well as the rage out of one's body to heal.

*****

The rage is temporary. It lasts a lot longer than most feelings, and it will probably come back from time to time, but it is temporary. It came back in cycles for me - 5 months, 14 months, 24 months, 50-60 months. Alas, the cycles were not regular; I kept getting surprised. Triggers are unspeakable, but they are standard, and surprises keep coming, sometimes for years. My last big trigger was 7 years ago, IIRC.

*****

IMO, a lot of losses feed the rage, but the underlying loss, the one that can't be avoided, is the loss of a whole slew of illusions. Accepting the illusions as illusions removes the rage. Alas, it takes time to accept illusions. And I I wrote, it can take several cycled through rage to do the necessary processing.

*****

Humiliation is, IMO, more a thought than a feeling, though it certainly has a feeling element (i.e. hormones and electrical current flow because of a stimulus). Many, and perhaps all, BSes start by taking responsibility for being betrayed. It's pretty normal to think one should feel humiliated, if one is responsible for a fuckup as big as being betrayed, so we tell ourselves to feel humiliated.

But the BS didn't fuck up. The WS did. The humiliation belongs to the WS.

Changing one's self-talk is the way out of humiliation. It's probably the only way out. IMO, to heal, the BS has to keep reminding themself that the WS cheated for their own reasons, not because of issues with the BS or the M. Usually the BS is not a conscious target of the WS - the vast majority of WSes claim they didn't want to hurt their BS. BSes need to adopt a mindset to the effect of, 'The WS did this to themself. I'm collateral damage.'

Check with friends - how often does one hear something other than support, at least at the beginning? Until one is affected by infidelity, one usually laughs at infidelity jokes, but when actually faced with a victim of cheating, lots of people find empathy immediately. They may not like the way you handle it, but they're supportive.

If someone isn't supportive, they need to be ignored.

So the sense of humiliation is a real problem that has to be solved, but the cure is to find or develop within oneself the ability to change our self-talk.

fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex ap
d-day - 12/22/2010 Recover'd and R'ed
You don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.

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Unhinged ( member #47977) posted at 1:24 AM on Wednesday, June 24th, 2026

Gemmy, what purpose does rage serve? Does it improve your life?

Married 2005
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 Gemmy (original poster member #86765) posted at 1:42 AM on Wednesday, June 24th, 2026

Unhinged, no, rage by itself does not improve my life. If I stayed there permanently, it would probably shrink my life, damage my health, and turn me into someone I do not want to become. I do not think rage is a destination, and I do not want to build a home in it.

But I do think I need to work through it. For me, the purpose of naming it is not to worship it, justify every impulse it creates, or let it drive the car. The purpose is to underatand what it is protecting, what it is reacting to, and what other feelings are tangled up inside it. I do not think I canskip over it and call that healing. If I pretend it is not there, it will still come out somewhere, probably sideways, probably at the wrong people, and probably in ways I regret.

So no, rage does not improve my life in the long term. But honestly facing it may. It tells me that something sacred was violated, my boundaries, that the truth matters, and that I am not willing to minimize what happened just so it is easier for everyone else to sit with. My job now is not to live in rage. My job is to process it honestly enough that it eventually becomes information instead of a prison, or more like poison that slowly changes me.

Betrayed but trying to stand for the family. ME: 45 M DDay Oct.18 2025- April 2026 Two LTA EA/PA first 2 years second 1 year - 14 years apart.

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GotTheMorbs ( member #86894) posted at 1:58 AM on Wednesday, June 24th, 2026

So when people start explaining her choices with soft words like brokenness, avoidance, validation, coping, or compartmentalization, something inside you wants to revolt.

If I may ask, why do those words feel "soft" to you? I receive them with a much different connotation... When you think about the traumatic experiences you've mentioned you've been through and look at those words through that lens-- times where you may have felt broken, avoided something that was difficult, coped any way you could, compartmentalized to keep yourself safe, perhaps... Do they still seem "soft" then? Or maybe you mean that it's "understanding" or "forgiving" language, and you're not ready for that yet so the rage is pushing back on it? Or are you hearing those words as a means of couching her choices in justifications?

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Oldwounds ( member #54486) posted at 1:59 AM on Wednesday, June 24th, 2026

I’m long beyond my rage stage — and it lasted a good 3-4 months with some additional days thereafter.

I loved it.

I loved being able to let it all out. I loved taking it out on literal punching bags. And I forgave myself the day I destroyed my storage room. I kind of miss those bookshelves.

My rage was a cleansing fire.

On the other side of it was the reset.

From then on, life would be far more about what I want and need.

The whole compromise thing, the sacrifice thing, the wearing masks to take the high road, the games, the BS, the walking on eggshells thing — all of that was gone.

Of course, life never bends to our will, but our mindset does.

I wake up every day and choose my life.

I credit my rage quite a bit, because it felt great to express all the pain and sadness in a powerful (for me) way.

These days, anger is back in the emotional golf bag where it belongs — I’ll reach for that club as needed, but most of the time I’m focused on the good stuff.

Married 36+ years, together 41+ years
Two awesome adult sons.
Dday 6/16 4-year LTA Survived.
M Restored
"It is better to conquer our grief than to deceive it." — Seneca

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NoThanksForTheMemories ( member #83278) posted at 2:14 AM on Wednesday, June 24th, 2026

It's a good idea to give the rage a release valve so that it doesn't erupt at a bad time/place and cause irreparable damage.

I didn't destroy a storage room, but I did set fire (in a metal box, outside) to a handful of mementos associated with our wedding. This was 3 days after dday1. It felt really cathartic to watch that stuff burn. Destruction can be cleansing if done right.

WS had a 3 yr EA+PA from 2020-2022, and an EA 10 years ago (different AP). Dday1 Nov 2022. Dday4 Sep 2023. False R for 2.5 months. 30 years together. Divorcing.

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Unhinged ( member #47977) posted at 2:23 AM on Wednesday, June 24th, 2026

I struggled with rage for quite a while. It was the impetus to seek out therapy, which helped.

There were times when my rage was directed at strangers, wholly undeserving of my wrath. And I very much regret that.

The purpose is to underatand what it is protecting, what it is reacting to, and what other feelings are tangled up inside it.

What do you think it's protecting? What are those feelings tangled up inside it?

My ex-wife triggered that rage. But it had little to do with her, the infidelity or her actions and the things she said in the emmediate aftermath. I had to dig a little deeper (a lot deeper).

It was me, breaking through my own walls, just like Roger Waters' screams at the end of "The Wall." It was me letting out years of pent up anguish, not with my wife, not with "the slings and arrow of outrageous fortune," but with my own reluctance to own my anger with myself.

Keep digging, brother. That rage is you trying to break free of your own limitations.

ETA: well said Oldwounds!

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 Gemmy (original poster member #86765) posted at 2:30 AM on Wednesday, June 24th, 2026

Morbs, use the psychological words if they help explain the machinery. But do not let them replace the harder words that name the damage. Deception. Entitlement. Cowardice. Exploitation. Cruelty. Betrayal. Moral failure. Abuse of trust. Those words matter too, because they are the words that keep the truth from being softened into something easier for everyone else to swallow.

When I look back at what I went through, none of those apply. I was abused not the abuser.

Betrayed but trying to stand for the family. ME: 45 M DDay Oct.18 2025- April 2026 Two LTA EA/PA first 2 years second 1 year - 14 years apart.

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