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 MintChocChip (original poster member #83762) posted at 8:26 PM on Thursday, September 28th, 2023

Sisoon I wanted to thank you for the great post you made, which I read quite a few times.

The 3rd part was to identify if I wanted R from strength or from weakness. I decided my desire came from strength - R was what I really wanted. W still made my heart skip beats and my knees feel weak after 43 years of M. I was still in love with her like I was when I was 21. I observed my W and decided she was a great candidate for R.

This was such a nice thing to read :)

I really enjoyed reading and thinking about the other things you wrote. They've given me quite a lot of food for thought.

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SerJR ( member #14993) posted at 11:43 PM on Thursday, September 28th, 2023

I think the first thing you need to ask yourself is, what does your version of healed look like?

There seems to be an implication that it means everything will go back to normal, yourself included. This isn't how it works however. True healing is a transformative process. You will change through it. That doesn't mean the core of who you are will change, but you might find that you're a little more vulnerable with some things, compassionate or wiser with other things, a little more resilient and capable with the rest. It's not a better or worse version of yourself, you've simply just grown and evolved as an individual.

It's important to understand that your world-view has changed, and that you're going to redefine how you see yourself fitting into it. This is a part of growth, where we extend our boundaries and our world grows just a little bit larger. Acceptance is key to this. You have to learn to accept what happened. You have to learn to accept that you can't control anything in life other than the choices you make. And you have to learn to accept who you are, and that you will be okay. I know this sounds cheesy as fuck, but I'm being really genuine here. Once you really "get" it, it is incredibly liberating to understand that you can take control of your life again.

It require a lot of work and effort. And it takes commitment to yourself and a little forgiveness. It truly is a journey and sometimes you'll find that you'll have ups and downs, or need to rest or backtrack in order to move forward. You just have to keep your end goal in sight and understand what it is that you want - who it is that you want to be. You have to commit to that and focus your efforts on getting there the best way that you can.

I know you're probably looking for more concrete actions, and there's plenty of lists of how to cut out toxic influences and re-engage with your life (a la 180), but your healing journey is your healing journey. It will look different than others and you have to decide what is best for you. There's lots of great actionable items - take what works for you and find your own way smile

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Hope is never lost. It exists within you - it is real. It is not a force in and of itself - it is something that you create with every thought, action, and choice you make. It is a gift that you create for yourself.

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crazyblindsided ( member #35215) posted at 11:45 PM on Thursday, September 28th, 2023

SerJR wish I could give your post a standing ovation. Words to live by for real!

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XWS:53 Serial Cheater, Diagnosed NPD
DD(20) DS(17)
XWS cheated the entire M spanning 19 years
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 MintChocChip (original poster member #83762) posted at 11:53 PM on Thursday, September 28th, 2023

At SerJR I agree it was an incredible post. Thank you so much

I know I wouldn't want to go back to being old me.

That might sound odd but I think grief and pain take from you but also give something back. Which I guess is the transformation you speak of.

My partner before WS passed away suddenly, so I learned the lesson then that you can only move forward.

[This message edited by MintChocChip at 11:56 PM, Thursday, September 28th]

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 MintChocChip (original poster member #83762) posted at 12:00 AM on Friday, September 29th, 2023

I want to share here a blog post that got me through some tough days. Although it's not about infidelity, I think so much of it applies and touches on what you said:


The hallmark of a human life is loss, it seems. And the body is a vessel for grief.

This is not an if, but when. When is loss gonna hit?

And then it is how. How do you carry it? All that grief. And don’t even ask why. Why is not a question that grief ever answers.

I only know this because I have my own grief. I am not looking for more, but it keeps coming anyway. It makes me feel like I’m getting nowhere sometimes, and yet closer to something at the same time.

Maybe that’s because loss doesn’t just take. It gives, too. Like a trade.

I’m going to take this from you but give this to you instead: more space, cleansing tears, better questions, compassion, pathways to the center, maps to deeper wells, less distractions, blankets of darkness, little pools of light under your skin where he touched you but will never touch you again, and holes in your heart that nothing but pure love can fill.

And then, go. Go into the world and carry these things the best you can. Let them move around and make love messes and surprise you in the mass of bone and blood and skin vessel that you are. Grocery shop with them, chop vegetables with them, go to parties and smile at people with them.

Be yourself, only different now, with all that grief.

I saw one day a woman on the beach playing with her dog. I noticed as she stopped and looked at the ocean and folded her arms across herself. I saw her grief then. The way she carried it in her core. Tucked away so people might not notice.

But then it sneaked up on her, like the ocean was pulling it out of her. And she sat with it for a moment, bowed her head, maybe feeling like it was going to shatter her into a thousand grains of sand before she caught herself and tried to shake it off.

But grief isn’t like that. You can’t just shake it off. It doesn’t ever really leave. It just changes. And it changes you. It shapes you. Your stance, your stride, your ways of loving and being and moving in the world. The things you do and don’t care about anymore.

And there you are, twenty years later. Sitting in your car outside the supermarket, and all at once you’re paralyzed; can’t go in because a song just came on the radio that reminds you of the person you loved and lost. The grief that you thought you’d already felt just rises up like an ocean inside you.

Pummels your heart with waves and pours out your eyeballs like stormwater.

You think, "All this fucking time and I still feel this grief?" And your body is saying "Yes. Yes, you do."

You wonder what the point is, then. Wonder if you could find a way to drain those grief waters out of you for good. Only if you could take the air out of the sky and the carbon out of the stars and the forest out of the trees.

You see, we are made of grief. And we are meant to be.

It means we are here. It means we’re alive, even though it can make you feel like you wish you weren’t sometimes. It means we’ve risked. It means we’ve loved and lost and risen and fallen. It means we’ve been unlocked and held open despite ourselves.

And I can’t think of many better reasons than that for being human

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SerJR ( member #14993) posted at 1:15 AM on Friday, September 29th, 2023

That was a great blog to share minty, and what you say makes perfect sense.

Our experiences will always be a part of us.
Sometimes it's insignificant.
Sometimes it teaches us.
Sometimes it will make us hurt.
Sometimes it will remind us of how strong we are.
And sometimes it will help us with those tears to cleanse our soul.

It's a window to the past that will always be there if we walk past and glance through it.

It's okay to hurt. And it's okay to be lost. You will heal. And you will find your way.

For where the grief once controlled you, you will find that you control your grief. And it's okay to look back through that window from time to time, and to embrace wholly who you are. Be authentic with yourself. Not all who wander are lost, and not all pain will cause hurt. The true triumph of the human spirit is to rise above and through vulnerability is how we grow, and love, and nurture ourselves. smile

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Hope is never lost. It exists within you - it is real. It is not a force in and of itself - it is something that you create with every thought, action, and choice you make. It is a gift that you create for yourself.

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SacredSoul33 ( member #83038) posted at 2:50 PM on Friday, September 29th, 2023

What a beautiful way to start this Friday. Terrific posts. smile

Let the world feel the weight of who you are and let them deal with it.

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