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 Gottagetthrough (original poster member #27325) posted at 2:11 PM on Wednesday, February 28th, 2024

TW: Childhood abuse


friend recently disclosed their childhood abuse. i am the first person they have told in 40 yrs., with the exception of a parent WHO DID NOTHING. an older sibling would get them alone and abuse them. older sibling was about in 9th grade, victim in 1st.

My friend said it happened often for a while. they are just remembering this abuse after 40 years. As they told me, they went from saying, "Sibling did this to me, I …." to "Sibling did this to THEM, and THEY felt ashamed…" I pointed out that friend was going from 1st person to 3rd person in speaking about themselves. They said it was like they were in the room and could see it happen but they were beside themselves, not in their body. They said they knew it was wrong because they didn’t even tell their best friend. They said older sibling said the molestation was "their little secret". Friend said they realize it’s stupid to feel this way, but that they feel bad telling me because they broke the secret. They feel like they broke the abuser’s trust.

I know older the sibling. I have such rage and want to punch them in the face. (I will not, I have not seen them in years) Oh, and guess what profession older scumbag sibling is in… Teaching elementary school!

I am reeling. I want to be there for the friend, I want to freaking punch the sibling, and the parent that did nothing when their 7 year old came to them and said big sibling was abusing them?! I want to call them and scream til their damn ears bleed.

I am so mad at these scumbags (both abuser and shit parent) and sad for friend and gobsmacked as I have known these people for a long time and had NO CLUE this happened. My kids have had sleep overs at abuser’s house. I TRUSTED THE ABUSER. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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 Gottagetthrough (original poster member #27325) posted at 2:19 PM on Wednesday, February 28th, 2024

WTH do I do?!?! Do I call their school and say they are a molester? If my kids teacher abused a sibling EVEN 40 YEARS AGO i would not want them around any kids!!!


Friend asked me not to tell anyone. I want to ask my kids if this ######### touched them during sleepovers. I don’t think they ever did, but i didn’t think they did this to my friend!!!!!!! I hate these people (both the parent and abuser) with such anger. I am so damn angry

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BearlyBreathing ( member #55075) posted at 2:57 PM on Wednesday, February 28th, 2024

I have no advice and have to run, but wanted you know that you have been heard. talking to a therapist would be a good start - and make sure your friend gets some IC too. Hopefully one of the current/former LEO on the site will speak to the legal paths.

So Sorry.

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Superesse ( member #60731) posted at 3:01 PM on Wednesday, February 28th, 2024

Gotta, for your friend to share her childhood recall with you, even reluctantly, she really trusts you. Handle her story with care.

It is maddening, and you want to do something. Just don't do anything you can't undo.

Though we don't hear much about this kind of sibling abuse, it isn't really unusual but it is way under-reported as most people are like your friend in blocking the memories. Statistics on childhood sexual abuse used to state that 1 in 4 girls reported being sexually abused and 1 in 5 boys reported the same. That is a LOT of abused children, and I believe those percentages may be higher today, but cannot confirm. (These data are from a course in childhood abuse I took in college.)

My own baby sister told me something very similar happened in our home during the summer I was out of state at my grandparents' home, at age 13. My brothers ages 12 and 10 had gotten into their father's porn magazine stash, which was in the closet of their former bedroom after my Mother had booted our father out of the parental bedroom and had banished the boys to the basement, where they were allowed to do 'whatever' unsupervised. Both boys were in the early teenage hormone-fueled developmental stage AND such sexually provocative material should never have been in the house in the first place. I think if they hadn't had a paternal example set of how men "view" women, they would not have thought to "practice" some stuff my sister said they tried with her. The most angering part was she told me this years later because she wanted to find out whether the same kind of "sex play" had happened between me and our brothers - like they told her it had! I hated to have to tell her that was a lie, because I saw how they lied about what went on between us siblings to get her to go along with their abuse, thinking it must be no big deal if her older sister had done that, too!

She told me she called the older of the two brothers at the time she recalled this and he blew her off, not even apologizing. That is sadly typical, as well. He was a drug and sex addict and very narcissistically disordered through his entire life, dying at age 71 without ever making amends with anyone. My sister was a lifelong sexual abuse victim, having married a man who was a sex addict who cheated with drug addicted women and maybe men. He gave her an STD which my doctor said likely could have been the source of her fatal squamous cell carcinoma; she died at age 54.

The whole family is affected by this kind of sexual abuse, and sadly, it is common that the parent who is told of the abuse does not protect their child, either; they too are part of the sick family belief system. She has a lot of things to process with this recovered memory and I am so sorry it impacts your life as well. Can you meet with a private psychologist for a consult on how or when to ask your children about this man?

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 Gottagetthrough (original poster member #27325) posted at 4:12 PM on Wednesday, February 28th, 2024

i appreciate all of your comments and yeah i am definitely not going to actually do anything like tell anyone or whatnot.

i just want to freaking scream.

i am not surprised that childhood abuse was disclosed. This friend has been going to a therapist who said that people who have issues like they do usually have been abused as a child. Whether it’s physical, emotional or sexual abuse. I honestly thought that they were repressing abuse, because there was a person in the community who was found guilty of sexual abuse maybe 10 or 15 years ago. And I know this friend had interactions with that person when they were younger. (friend said that adult never abused them… said they would have told immediately.)

The abuse is not what has left me completely shocked.

It’s who the abuser is. I am absolutely floored.

It makes other issues this person has MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW.

Friend is in counseling. I have been in counseling for ever so will talk to my therapist about this.

Thank you all for validating my feelings and this story.

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SacredSoul33 ( member #83038) posted at 6:19 PM on Wednesday, February 28th, 2024

Ooof, that the abuser is teaching elementary school now is troubling. Also, I can see a little bit of experimenting between kids who are close in age as being somewhat normal, but there's a big power differential between 1st and 9th grade. That's not experimentation. That's molestation.

I think it's wise to talk to your counselor. They're mandated reporters, but I don't know if that applies in a case like this.

Gasping for air while volunteering to give others CPR is not heroic.

Your nervous system will always choose a familiar hell over an unfamiliar heaven.

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 Gottagetthrough (original poster member #27325) posted at 10:33 PM on Wednesday, February 28th, 2024

I think it's wise to talk to your counselor. They're mandated reporters, but I don't know if that applies in a case like this.

yeah, that’s what i’m thinking. idk if this is a case of telling? i mean, is the abuser ok now? i thought that didn’t go away?? I find it VERY interesting that their chosen profession was elem. teacher.

And who the hell in that family taught the abuser to abuse?!?!

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